Sunday evening, JoINrbs was playing on Skeletor’s (Reuben’s) MODO account when his opponent became curt. A verbal battle ensued, which slowly morphed into a heartfelt discussion about love, life, success, and the measure of a man.
Then, it turned out his opponent was none other than Mike Long, former professional Magic player with no shortage of wacky money-making schemes.
Enjoy!
– Good Gamery Administration
10:47 PM Wildeyed: can you play a bit faster please?
10:48 PM Reubs: can you conceed please?
10:48 PM Wildeyed: why are you acting lame
10:49 PM Wildeyed: are you a 14 year old?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: well?[
10:49 PM Wildeyed: what’s your deal?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: what did i do?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: i politely asked you to play faster
10:49 PM Wildeyed: is this the way you act in person?
10:49 PM Reubs: play faster please
10:49 PM Wildeyed: why don’t you respond to what i said?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: are you proud of the way you’re acting?
10:50 PM Wildeyed: are you not going to answer?
10:50 PM Wildeyed: do you have any class at all?
10:50 PM Wildeyed: hello?
10:51 PM Wildeyed: answer me or have fun waiting 14 minutes
10:51 PM Reubs: fyi
10:51 PM Wildeyed: actually forgetabout it
10:51 PM Reubs: well, first i am fine with waiting
10:51 PM Reubs: go for it, your clock
10:51 PM Wildeyed: just enjoy wayiting
10:51 PM Wildeyed: great
10:51 PM Reubs: when i have a decision
10:51 PM Wildeyed: enjoy
10:52 PM Reubs: and have 1.5 minutes less than you on my clock
10:52 PM Reubs: it’s sort of rude to ask me to play faster
10:56 PM Wildeyed: ps i built that deck, so like um, smart networking too
10:57 PM Reubs: cool
10:57 PM Reubs: i built it too
10:57 PM Reubs: smart networking
10:57 PM Wildeyed: uh huh
10:57 PM Wildeyed: sure you did
10:58 PM Wildeyed: pat? didn’t think so
10:58 PM Reubs: not networking with you seems +ev
10:59 PM Wildeyed: smart thinnking – because i haven’t um helped several people win pro championships or anything
10:59 PM Wildeyed: oh no wait, i have
10:59 PM Wildeyed: it’s really great when the new generation brings a real sense of courtesy and fun to the game, thanks for that
11:00 PM Reubs: i’ve been playing a long time
11:00 PM Reubs: i switched to poker
11:00 PM Reubs: i make a lot of money
11:00 PM Reubs: you have reminded me why i stopped magic
11:00 PM Wildeyed: i bet you aren’t happy
11:00 PM Reubs: thank you
11:00 PM Wildeyed: ;)
11:00 PM Reubs: right
11:00 PM Reubs: that’s why i play poker
11:00 PM Wildeyed: have are things with girls
11:00 PM Reubs: and you don’t
11:00 PM Wildeyed: ;)
11:00 PM Wildeyed: um hum
11:00 PM Reubs: girls are pretty good
11:00 PM Wildeyed: you have no idea who you’re talking to dip-sh*t
11:00 PM Reubs: big date with stephanie in a couple of days
11:00 PM Wildeyed: i’m a millionaire, i could give a sh*t
11:00 PM Reubs: lol
11:00 PM Wildeyed: big date?
11:00 PM Wildeyed: lol
11:00 PM Wildeyed: nice
11:00 PM Reubs: you are a millionaire
11:01 PM Wildeyed: have fun
11:01 PM Reubs: and you are timing out on me
11:01 PM Reubs: in a two ticket HU queue
11:01 PM Reubs: you are awesome dude
11:01 PM Wildeyed: funny how the human system works
11:01 PM Reubs: thanks for the games
11:01 PM Reubs: g1 was close
11:01 PM Wildeyed: you treat me with contempt – click, whir, i do the same
11:01 PM Reubs: not sure about my play in g2
11:01 PM Reubs: holding anathemancer, fallout, bit blast, leech, finks right now
11:01 PM Reubs: had a lot to think about
11:02 PM Wildeyed: you should look at the way you treat people before you see steph – or you’ll be scratching your head as to why she left you
11:02 PM Reubs: gave you credit for not attacking and pumping leech if i telegraphed pyroclasm though
11:02 PM Reubs: ggs
11:02 PM Reubs: enjoy your thrilling mtg career
11:03 PM Wildeyed: yeah that’s where i derive all of my pleasure – no i have a great life. usually i come to the magic world to help pople
11:03 PM Wildeyed: people
11:03 PM Wildeyed: but sometimes
11:03 PM Reubs: that’s awesome dude
11:03 PM Wildeyed: if you work at it a bit
11:03 PM Wildeyed: while i’m mana screwed
11:03 PM Wildeyed: you can bring the animal back out ;)
11:04 PM Reubs: well you get mana screwed some % of the time
11:04 PM Wildeyed: ggs gl with poker, i apologize for timing out
11:04 PM Reubs: what point is there getting upset
11:04 PM Wildeyed: also
11:04 PM Wildeyed: read blink by malcolm gladwell if you want to know why i got upset
11:04 PM Reubs: read it already
11:04 PM Wildeyed: the respect study
11:04 PM Wildeyed: uw
11:04 PM Reubs: also i went to uw
11:04 PM Wildeyed: they have all the couples have phoney fights
11:05 PM Wildeyed: eventually they can tell by watching a 5-minute clip whether they will be together in 15 years
11:05 PM Wildeyed: 95% of the time
11:05 PM Wildeyed: with the sound turned off
11:05 PM Reubs: they aren’t phony fights
11:05 PM Wildeyed: they are
11:05 PM Reubs: they are everyday discussions
11:05 PM Reubs: no, you listen for contempt
11:05 PM Wildeyed: look how argumentative you are
11:05 PM Reubs: you are trying to tell me something that is incorrect, so i am correcting you
11:05 PM Wildeyed: ha, you put it a poor way
11:06 PM Wildeyed: that’s the point
11:06 PM Wildeyed: you think you can interact with people
11:06 PM Wildeyed: and treat them that way]
11:06 PM Wildeyed: fine
11:06 PM Wildeyed: but
11:06 PM Wildeyed: you’ll some people off
11:06 PM Wildeyed: even good people
11:06 PM Wildeyed: let that be a lesson
11:06 PM Wildeyed: i’ve away a lot of opportunities
11:06 PM Reubs: thank you for opening my eyes to the world
11:06 PM Wildeyed: i’ve had big ceos eating out of my hands
11:06 PM Wildeyed: then whoosh
11:06 PM Wildeyed: nothing
(those poor hungry ceos ;___; – GGA)
11:07 PM Wildeyed: i used to be that way
11:07 PM Wildeyed: i’m just saying
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you want to act like you know everything – great
11:07 PM Reubs: well let me develop through my grouchy early 20s
11:07 PM Wildeyed: i’ve got my lesson and my reward for my own bad behavior
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you’re probably way to bright to be grouchy
11:07 PM Reubs: then i will calm down and get chained down and learn to be nice to people
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you read bink
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you can correct me
11:08 PM Wildeyed: but do you understand the point ?
11:08 PM Reubs: yeah, it’s something i’m aware of
11:08 PM Wildeyed: you can dig yourself in such a hole the way you’re going
11:08 PM Wildeyed: make people hate you
11:08 PM Wildeyed: they will hurt you
11:08 PM Reubs: i don’t really care to make time for other people i’m not close to
11:08 PM Wildeyed: they won’t see you as a person
11:08 PM Reubs: i have a lot of excellent close friends
11:08 PM Wildeyed: they’ll steal from you
11:08 PM Wildeyed: sure
11:08 PM Wildeyed: so did i
11:08 PM Reubs: and all the connections i need right now
11:08 PM Wildeyed: and so many of them stabbed me in the back when i made it
11:08 PM Wildeyed: you have?
11:08 PM Wildeyed: what?
11:08 PM Wildeyed: do you think i’m lobbying you?
11:09 PM Wildeyed: bah
11:09 PM Wildeyed: you’re right
11:09 PM Wildeyed: you know it all
11:09 PM Reubs: i do not have aspirations of being president or a millionaire or anything
11:09 PM Wildeyed: and you know everyone you need to know
11:09 PM Reubs: i make plenty of good money
11:09 PM Wildeyed: and they will never screw you
11:09 PM Reubs: at the moment i am focusing on slacklining a lot
11:09 PM Wildeyed: good luck wiht that system kiddo
11:09 PM Reubs: and rock climbing
11:09 PM Reubs: and poker
11:09 PM Reubs: it’s working pretty well
11:09 PM Wildeyed: great
11:09 PM Wildeyed: well
11:09 PM Wildeyed: good luck with taht
11:10 PM Reubs: you should not pm people who are marginally behind you on time to ask them to play faster
11:10 PM Reubs: it is irritating
11:10 PM Reubs: and comes off as very rude
11:10 PM Wildeyed: you were taking forever
11:10 PM Reubs: and you should not time out on people, that’s just absurd
11:10 PM Reubs: i play poker with two cards
11:10 PM Reubs: magic has 60 cards in each deck
11:10 PM Reubs: and 7 cards in each hand
11:10 PM Reubs: and an infinitely more complex board state
11:10 PM Reubs: and i don’t know every card in your deck
11:11 PM Reubs: there is a huge huge amount to think about
11:11 PM Reubs: to maximize ev
11:11 PM Wildeyed: anyways
11:11 PM Wildeyed: i’m not defending my actions
11:11 PM Wildeyed: i don’t agree with my actions
11:11 PM Wildeyed: that’s why i apologized
11:11 PM Reubs: cool, i’m sorry i was short with you then
11:11 PM Reubs: i have no way of knowing you aren’t a random mtgo
11:11 PM Reubs: d1ckhead
11:11 PM Wildeyed: i mean
11:11 PM Wildeyed: if you treat people
11:12 PM Wildeyed: as if
11:12 PM Wildeyed: there are
11:12 PM Wildeyed: random dickheads
11:12 PM Wildeyed: i mean
11:12 PM Reubs: that is what you did to me right?
11:12 PM Wildeyed: you’ll bring out the dickheads even in cool people
11:12 PM Wildeyed: no what i did was gay
11:12 PM Wildeyed: i don’t like feeling bad around magic
11:12 PM Wildeyed: that’s why i’m sticking around to resolve this
11:12 PM Wildeyed: i don’t like feeling bad surrounding anything
11:13 PM Reubs: magic constantly makes me feel bad
11:13 PM Reubs: i played at gp: seattle
11:13 PM Reubs: worst feeling of my life
11:13 PM Wildeyed: i used to be such an animal
11:13 PM Wildeyed: at live tournaments i’d lose my mind
11:13 PM Wildeyed: regularly
11:13 PM Reubs: poker is so much better
11:13 PM Reubs: i 24-table
11:13 PM Wildeyed: that’s how i got a reputation, not cheating, just being a
11:13 PM Reubs: play with the same guys every day and they are all nice and well-mannered
11:13 PM Wildeyed: 24-table?
11:13 PM Wildeyed: ah yeah
11:13 PM Wildeyed: sure
11:13 PM Reubs: general understanding that you’re there to take money off bad players
11:13 PM Wildeyed: poker should be better
11:14 PM Reubs: and that you should be nice to the bad players so they keep coming back
11:14 PM Reubs: it’s gentlemanly
11:14 PM Reubs: magic is like
11:14 PM Reubs: lots of people with emotional issues trying to be superior to each other
11:14 PM Reubs: over a card game
11:14 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:14 PM Wildeyed: i was typing that
11:14 PM Wildeyed: it makes you feel morally superior
11:14 PM Wildeyed: because you feel so freaking smart when you win
11:15 PM Wildeyed: but it’s so often a lie what you’re feeling
11:15 PM Reubs: i generally feel like an idiot when i win
11:15 PM Reubs: because i didn’t play perfectly
11:15 PM Reubs: that’s all magic has going for it in my eyes, infinitely complex
11:15 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:15 PM Wildeyed: my friend david is a 2 time pt runner up
11:15 PM Wildeyed: still can’t play
11:15 PM Wildeyed: his mind is so jacked from the competitive days
11:15 PM Reubs: david who?
11:15 PM Wildeyed: he gets so angry when he loses]
11:15 PM Wildeyed: mills
11:16 PM Wildeyed: he’s still a brilliant deck builder
11:16 PM Wildeyed: but he can hardly play without suffering
11:16 PM Reubs: poker completely removes tilt from games of magic
11:16 PM Reubs: like, you realize how absurdly high variance is
11:16 PM Wildeyed: heh
11:16 PM Reubs: and how little in the game is actually up to you
11:17 PM Reubs: i just feel awful because i am spending hours playing magic instead of making tons of money playing poker or exercising and being social and stuff
11:17 PM Wildeyed: my friend david williams suffers over mtg all the time lol
11:17 PM Wildeyed: well
11:17 PM Reubs: he also does foot pornos and buys diamond studded toothpicks
11:17 PM Wildeyed: you’re falling pray to the fallacy of the inverse
11:17 PM Wildeyed: do you know what that is?
11:17 PM Reubs: i do not
11:18 PM Wildeyed: if it rains the sidewalk gets wet
11:18 PM Wildeyed: if p then q
11:18 PM Wildeyed: our minds are really screwed up when it comes to that idea
11:18 PM Wildeyed: we always think q = p
11:18 PM Wildeyed: there’s zillions of studies about it
11:18 PM Wildeyed: so
11:18 PM Wildeyed: if it’s good to make a million dollars playing poker
11:18 PM Wildeyed: then…
11:18 PM Wildeyed: we feel like it’s bad not to
11:19 PM Reubs: yeah
11:19 PM Wildeyed: thus chasing opportunity in this manic state
11:19 PM Reubs: i don’t know
11:19 PM Reubs: i am not like, phil galfond obsessive over this
11:19 PM Wildeyed: it’s very powerful to have no negative expectations
11:19 PM Wildeyed: i don’t know phil
11:19 PM Reubs: he’s a high stakes cash guy who doesn’t really enjoy life despite making millions
11:19 PM Wildeyed: exactly
11:20 PM Reubs: he’s basically the perfect example
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i know so many miserable millionaires
11:20 PM Wildeyed: soooo manuy
11:20 PM Wildeyed: many
11:20 PM Reubs: i like having an idea of what my time is worth
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i was miserable
11:20 PM Reubs: i’m still able to take time off poker no problem
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i remember the day
11:20 PM Reubs: but i value my time more
11:20 PM Wildeyed: a half mil cleared into my account
11:20 PM Reubs: and make sure i’m doing stuff that i like in my time off
11:20 PM Wildeyed: and i was like: i am not a happy person
11:20 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i work around 4 really hard hours a day
11:21 PM Wildeyed: which takes usually 8 hours
11:21 PM Wildeyed: then that’s it
11:21 PM Wildeyed: dnd
11:21 PM Wildeyed: magic
11:21 PM Wildeyed: girls
11:21 PM Wildeyed: around
11:21 PM Wildeyed: f*cking around
11:21 PM Wildeyed: that 8 hours is my contribution to the world
11:21 PM Reubs: i do 1-3 hours a day and spend the rest of the time outside usually
11:21 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:21 PM Reubs: i make a lot less money than you, fine by me though
11:21 PM Wildeyed: anyways like i said, sorry for timing u out
11:21 PM Wildeyed: bah
11:21 PM Wildeyed: the money isn’t really that important
11:22 PM Wildeyed: it’s true that i’m a millionaire but it’s false that it matters, which i certainly implied
11:22 PM Reubs: i dropped out a year ago for poker
11:22 PM Wildeyed: it just means that if i want to i can lock my door and turn off my phone and probably nobody will bug me
11:22 PM Reubs: was making 10k a month
11:22 PM Reubs: thinking this is awesome
11:22 PM Reubs: then i realized i needed like 1.5k a month to do everything i wanted to do
11:23 PM Wildeyed: dude
11:23 PM Wildeyed: that’s a really key realization
11:23 PM Wildeyed: i didn’t realize it until i was
11:23 PM Wildeyed: um
11:23 PM Wildeyed: jeez
11:23 PM Wildeyed: 32
11:23 PM Reubs: glad i got it out of the way early
11:23 PM Wildeyed: anyways, it was good to met you, sorry i was lame
11:23 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:23 PM Wildeyed: for sure
11:24 PM Reubs: what’s your name
?
11:24 PM Wildeyed: good to meet you man, take care
11:24 PM Wildeyed: mike long
11:24 PM Reubs: lol
11:24 PM Reubs: k
11:24 PM Reubs: do you remember
11:24 PM Reubs: whatever t2 had owl
11:24 PM Wildeyed: sure
11:24 PM Reubs: you were playing RG aggro
11:24 PM Wildeyed: we had a fun owl deck
11:24 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:24 PM Reubs: JoINrbs
11:24 PM Wildeyed: i had a great rg deck
11:24 PM Reubs: is opponent name
11:24 PM Wildeyed: what happened? did you beat me?
11:24 PM Reubs: pitches autochthon wurm to nourishing shoal
11:24 PM Wildeyed: owl could beat anybody
11:24 PM Reubs: twincasts twice
11:25 PM Reubs: you disconnect game one and don’t come back
11:25 PM Wildeyed: oh yeah
11:25 PM Wildeyed: really?
11:25 PM Wildeyed: that’s weird
11:25 PM Reubs: yeah
11:25 PM Wildeyed: that’s not like me
11:25 PM Reubs: one of my favorite moments from magic
11:25 PM Reubs: ever
11:25 PM Wildeyed: it must have been an internet proble
11:25 PM Wildeyed: problem
11:25 PM Wildeyed: or a girl
11:25 PM Wildeyed: or…
11:25 PM Wildeyed: i dunno
11:25 PM Wildeyed: something else
11:25 PM Wildeyed: or maybe i just lost it lol
11:25 PM Wildeyed: that is funny though from your perspective
11:25 PM Reubs: i will always believe you were like ‘ did that guy just do’
11:25 PM Reubs: and disc’d
11:26 PM Wildeyed: hahaha
11:26 PM Wildeyed: sure, enjoy the thought
11:26 PM Wildeyed: honestly
11:26 PM Wildeyed: it’s entirely possible
11:26 PM Wildeyed: it’s just not like me
11:26 PM Wildeyed: that rg deck was really good
11:26 PM Wildeyed: won a lot
11:26 PM Reubs: owl was okay, i got a bit pet decky with it
11:26 PM Reubs: wurm + shoal gave you over 50% in some aggro matchups
11:26 PM Reubs: and control was always a walk
11:26 PM Reubs: so yeah, that was fun
11:26 PM Wildeyed: i once won 5 straight 8-mans with it right after the PT
11:27 PM Wildeyed: anyways, that’s a cool story
11:27 PM Wildeyed: that’s what i love about magic
11:27 PM Wildeyed: almost everyone is connected by like 1-2 degrees
11:28 PM Reubs: i will come make fun of you for cheating or something if i ever see you at a gp or pt
11:28 PM Wildeyed: ok i’m gonna dash
11:28 PM Wildeyed: sure do that
11:28 PM Reubs: gluck
11:28 PM Wildeyed: lol
11:28 PM Wildeyed: that would be awesome
11:29 PM Wildeyed: u2
Wildeyed has left the conversation.
10:48 PM Reubs: can you conceed please?
10:48 PM Wildeyed: why are you acting lame
10:49 PM Wildeyed: are you a 14 year old?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: well?[
10:49 PM Wildeyed: what’s your deal?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: what did i do?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: i politely asked you to play faster
10:49 PM Wildeyed: is this the way you act in person?
10:49 PM Reubs: play faster please
10:49 PM Wildeyed: why don’t you respond to what i said?
10:49 PM Wildeyed: are you proud of the way you’re acting?
10:50 PM Wildeyed: are you not going to answer?
10:50 PM Wildeyed: do you have any class at all?
10:50 PM Wildeyed: hello?
10:51 PM Wildeyed: answer me or have fun waiting 14 minutes
10:51 PM Reubs: fyi
10:51 PM Wildeyed: actually forgetabout it
10:51 PM Reubs: well, first i am fine with waiting
10:51 PM Reubs: go for it, your clock
10:51 PM Wildeyed: just enjoy wayiting
10:51 PM Wildeyed: great
10:51 PM Reubs: when i have a decision
10:51 PM Wildeyed: enjoy
10:52 PM Reubs: and have 1.5 minutes less than you on my clock
10:52 PM Reubs: it’s sort of rude to ask me to play faster
10:56 PM Wildeyed: ps i built that deck, so like um, smart networking too
10:57 PM Reubs: cool
10:57 PM Reubs: i built it too
10:57 PM Reubs: smart networking
10:57 PM Wildeyed: uh huh
10:57 PM Wildeyed: sure you did
10:58 PM Wildeyed: pat? didn’t think so
10:58 PM Reubs: not networking with you seems +ev
10:59 PM Wildeyed: smart thinnking – because i haven’t um helped several people win pro championships or anything
10:59 PM Wildeyed: oh no wait, i have
10:59 PM Wildeyed: it’s really great when the new generation brings a real sense of courtesy and fun to the game, thanks for that
11:00 PM Reubs: i’ve been playing a long time
11:00 PM Reubs: i switched to poker
11:00 PM Reubs: i make a lot of money
11:00 PM Reubs: you have reminded me why i stopped magic
11:00 PM Wildeyed: i bet you aren’t happy
11:00 PM Reubs: thank you
11:00 PM Wildeyed: ;)
11:00 PM Reubs: right
11:00 PM Reubs: that’s why i play poker
11:00 PM Wildeyed: have are things with girls
11:00 PM Reubs: and you don’t
11:00 PM Wildeyed: ;)
11:00 PM Wildeyed: um hum
11:00 PM Reubs: girls are pretty good
11:00 PM Wildeyed: you have no idea who you’re talking to dip-sh*t
11:00 PM Reubs: big date with stephanie in a couple of days
11:00 PM Wildeyed: i’m a millionaire, i could give a sh*t
11:00 PM Reubs: lol
11:00 PM Wildeyed: big date?
11:00 PM Wildeyed: lol
11:00 PM Wildeyed: nice
11:00 PM Reubs: you are a millionaire
11:01 PM Wildeyed: have fun
11:01 PM Reubs: and you are timing out on me
11:01 PM Reubs: in a two ticket HU queue
11:01 PM Reubs: you are awesome dude
11:01 PM Wildeyed: funny how the human system works
11:01 PM Reubs: thanks for the games
11:01 PM Reubs: g1 was close
11:01 PM Wildeyed: you treat me with contempt – click, whir, i do the same
11:01 PM Reubs: not sure about my play in g2
11:01 PM Reubs: holding anathemancer, fallout, bit blast, leech, finks right now
11:01 PM Reubs: had a lot to think about
11:02 PM Wildeyed: you should look at the way you treat people before you see steph – or you’ll be scratching your head as to why she left you
11:02 PM Reubs: gave you credit for not attacking and pumping leech if i telegraphed pyroclasm though
11:02 PM Reubs: ggs
11:02 PM Reubs: enjoy your thrilling mtg career
11:03 PM Wildeyed: yeah that’s where i derive all of my pleasure – no i have a great life. usually i come to the magic world to help pople
11:03 PM Wildeyed: people
11:03 PM Wildeyed: but sometimes
11:03 PM Reubs: that’s awesome dude
11:03 PM Wildeyed: if you work at it a bit
11:03 PM Wildeyed: while i’m mana screwed
11:03 PM Wildeyed: you can bring the animal back out ;)
11:04 PM Reubs: well you get mana screwed some % of the time
11:04 PM Wildeyed: ggs gl with poker, i apologize for timing out
11:04 PM Reubs: what point is there getting upset
11:04 PM Wildeyed: also
11:04 PM Wildeyed: read blink by malcolm gladwell if you want to know why i got upset
11:04 PM Reubs: read it already
11:04 PM Wildeyed: the respect study
11:04 PM Wildeyed: uw
11:04 PM Reubs: also i went to uw
11:04 PM Wildeyed: they have all the couples have phoney fights
11:05 PM Wildeyed: eventually they can tell by watching a 5-minute clip whether they will be together in 15 years
11:05 PM Wildeyed: 95% of the time
11:05 PM Wildeyed: with the sound turned off
11:05 PM Reubs: they aren’t phony fights
11:05 PM Wildeyed: they are
11:05 PM Reubs: they are everyday discussions
11:05 PM Reubs: no, you listen for contempt
11:05 PM Wildeyed: look how argumentative you are
11:05 PM Reubs: you are trying to tell me something that is incorrect, so i am correcting you
11:05 PM Wildeyed: ha, you put it a poor way
11:06 PM Wildeyed: that’s the point
11:06 PM Wildeyed: you think you can interact with people
11:06 PM Wildeyed: and treat them that way]
11:06 PM Wildeyed: fine
11:06 PM Wildeyed: but
11:06 PM Wildeyed: you’ll some people off
11:06 PM Wildeyed: even good people
11:06 PM Wildeyed: let that be a lesson
11:06 PM Wildeyed: i’ve away a lot of opportunities
11:06 PM Reubs: thank you for opening my eyes to the world
11:06 PM Wildeyed: i’ve had big ceos eating out of my hands
11:06 PM Wildeyed: then whoosh
11:06 PM Wildeyed: nothing
(those poor hungry ceos ;___; – GGA)
11:07 PM Wildeyed: i used to be that way
11:07 PM Wildeyed: i’m just saying
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you want to act like you know everything – great
11:07 PM Reubs: well let me develop through my grouchy early 20s
11:07 PM Wildeyed: i’ve got my lesson and my reward for my own bad behavior
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you’re probably way to bright to be grouchy
11:07 PM Reubs: then i will calm down and get chained down and learn to be nice to people
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you read bink
11:07 PM Wildeyed: you can correct me
11:08 PM Wildeyed: but do you understand the point ?
11:08 PM Reubs: yeah, it’s something i’m aware of
11:08 PM Wildeyed: you can dig yourself in such a hole the way you’re going
11:08 PM Wildeyed: make people hate you
11:08 PM Wildeyed: they will hurt you
11:08 PM Reubs: i don’t really care to make time for other people i’m not close to
11:08 PM Wildeyed: they won’t see you as a person
11:08 PM Reubs: i have a lot of excellent close friends
11:08 PM Wildeyed: they’ll steal from you
11:08 PM Wildeyed: sure
11:08 PM Wildeyed: so did i
11:08 PM Reubs: and all the connections i need right now
11:08 PM Wildeyed: and so many of them stabbed me in the back when i made it
11:08 PM Wildeyed: you have?
11:08 PM Wildeyed: what?
11:08 PM Wildeyed: do you think i’m lobbying you?
11:09 PM Wildeyed: bah
11:09 PM Wildeyed: you’re right
11:09 PM Wildeyed: you know it all
11:09 PM Reubs: i do not have aspirations of being president or a millionaire or anything
11:09 PM Wildeyed: and you know everyone you need to know
11:09 PM Reubs: i make plenty of good money
11:09 PM Wildeyed: and they will never screw you
11:09 PM Reubs: at the moment i am focusing on slacklining a lot
11:09 PM Wildeyed: good luck wiht that system kiddo
11:09 PM Reubs: and rock climbing
11:09 PM Reubs: and poker
11:09 PM Reubs: it’s working pretty well
11:09 PM Wildeyed: great
11:09 PM Wildeyed: well
11:09 PM Wildeyed: good luck with taht
11:10 PM Reubs: you should not pm people who are marginally behind you on time to ask them to play faster
11:10 PM Reubs: it is irritating
11:10 PM Reubs: and comes off as very rude
11:10 PM Wildeyed: you were taking forever
11:10 PM Reubs: and you should not time out on people, that’s just absurd
11:10 PM Reubs: i play poker with two cards
11:10 PM Reubs: magic has 60 cards in each deck
11:10 PM Reubs: and 7 cards in each hand
11:10 PM Reubs: and an infinitely more complex board state
11:10 PM Reubs: and i don’t know every card in your deck
11:11 PM Reubs: there is a huge huge amount to think about
11:11 PM Reubs: to maximize ev
11:11 PM Wildeyed: anyways
11:11 PM Wildeyed: i’m not defending my actions
11:11 PM Wildeyed: i don’t agree with my actions
11:11 PM Wildeyed: that’s why i apologized
11:11 PM Reubs: cool, i’m sorry i was short with you then
11:11 PM Reubs: i have no way of knowing you aren’t a random mtgo
11:11 PM Reubs: d1ckhead
11:11 PM Wildeyed: i mean
11:11 PM Wildeyed: if you treat people
11:12 PM Wildeyed: as if
11:12 PM Wildeyed: there are
11:12 PM Wildeyed: random dickheads
11:12 PM Wildeyed: i mean
11:12 PM Reubs: that is what you did to me right?
11:12 PM Wildeyed: you’ll bring out the dickheads even in cool people
11:12 PM Wildeyed: no what i did was gay
11:12 PM Wildeyed: i don’t like feeling bad around magic
11:12 PM Wildeyed: that’s why i’m sticking around to resolve this
11:12 PM Wildeyed: i don’t like feeling bad surrounding anything
11:13 PM Reubs: magic constantly makes me feel bad
11:13 PM Reubs: i played at gp: seattle
11:13 PM Reubs: worst feeling of my life
11:13 PM Wildeyed: i used to be such an animal
11:13 PM Wildeyed: at live tournaments i’d lose my mind
11:13 PM Wildeyed: regularly
11:13 PM Reubs: poker is so much better
11:13 PM Reubs: i 24-table
11:13 PM Wildeyed: that’s how i got a reputation, not cheating, just being a
11:13 PM Reubs: play with the same guys every day and they are all nice and well-mannered
11:13 PM Wildeyed: 24-table?
11:13 PM Wildeyed: ah yeah
11:13 PM Wildeyed: sure
11:13 PM Reubs: general understanding that you’re there to take money off bad players
11:13 PM Wildeyed: poker should be better
11:14 PM Reubs: and that you should be nice to the bad players so they keep coming back
11:14 PM Reubs: it’s gentlemanly
11:14 PM Reubs: magic is like
11:14 PM Reubs: lots of people with emotional issues trying to be superior to each other
11:14 PM Reubs: over a card game
11:14 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:14 PM Wildeyed: i was typing that
11:14 PM Wildeyed: it makes you feel morally superior
11:14 PM Wildeyed: because you feel so freaking smart when you win
11:15 PM Wildeyed: but it’s so often a lie what you’re feeling
11:15 PM Reubs: i generally feel like an idiot when i win
11:15 PM Reubs: because i didn’t play perfectly
11:15 PM Reubs: that’s all magic has going for it in my eyes, infinitely complex
11:15 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:15 PM Wildeyed: my friend david is a 2 time pt runner up
11:15 PM Wildeyed: still can’t play
11:15 PM Wildeyed: his mind is so jacked from the competitive days
11:15 PM Reubs: david who?
11:15 PM Wildeyed: he gets so angry when he loses]
11:15 PM Wildeyed: mills
11:16 PM Wildeyed: he’s still a brilliant deck builder
11:16 PM Wildeyed: but he can hardly play without suffering
11:16 PM Reubs: poker completely removes tilt from games of magic
11:16 PM Reubs: like, you realize how absurdly high variance is
11:16 PM Wildeyed: heh
11:16 PM Reubs: and how little in the game is actually up to you
11:17 PM Reubs: i just feel awful because i am spending hours playing magic instead of making tons of money playing poker or exercising and being social and stuff
11:17 PM Wildeyed: my friend david williams suffers over mtg all the time lol
11:17 PM Wildeyed: well
11:17 PM Reubs: he also does foot pornos and buys diamond studded toothpicks
11:17 PM Wildeyed: you’re falling pray to the fallacy of the inverse
11:17 PM Wildeyed: do you know what that is?
11:17 PM Reubs: i do not
11:18 PM Wildeyed: if it rains the sidewalk gets wet
11:18 PM Wildeyed: if p then q
11:18 PM Wildeyed: our minds are really screwed up when it comes to that idea
11:18 PM Wildeyed: we always think q = p
11:18 PM Wildeyed: there’s zillions of studies about it
11:18 PM Wildeyed: so
11:18 PM Wildeyed: if it’s good to make a million dollars playing poker
11:18 PM Wildeyed: then…
11:18 PM Wildeyed: we feel like it’s bad not to
11:19 PM Reubs: yeah
11:19 PM Wildeyed: thus chasing opportunity in this manic state
11:19 PM Reubs: i don’t know
11:19 PM Reubs: i am not like, phil galfond obsessive over this
11:19 PM Wildeyed: it’s very powerful to have no negative expectations
11:19 PM Wildeyed: i don’t know phil
11:19 PM Reubs: he’s a high stakes cash guy who doesn’t really enjoy life despite making millions
11:19 PM Wildeyed: exactly
11:20 PM Reubs: he’s basically the perfect example
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i know so many miserable millionaires
11:20 PM Wildeyed: soooo manuy
11:20 PM Wildeyed: many
11:20 PM Reubs: i like having an idea of what my time is worth
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i was miserable
11:20 PM Reubs: i’m still able to take time off poker no problem
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i remember the day
11:20 PM Reubs: but i value my time more
11:20 PM Wildeyed: a half mil cleared into my account
11:20 PM Reubs: and make sure i’m doing stuff that i like in my time off
11:20 PM Wildeyed: and i was like: i am not a happy person
11:20 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:20 PM Wildeyed: i work around 4 really hard hours a day
11:21 PM Wildeyed: which takes usually 8 hours
11:21 PM Wildeyed: then that’s it
11:21 PM Wildeyed: dnd
11:21 PM Wildeyed: magic
11:21 PM Wildeyed: girls
11:21 PM Wildeyed: around
11:21 PM Wildeyed: f*cking around
11:21 PM Wildeyed: that 8 hours is my contribution to the world
11:21 PM Reubs: i do 1-3 hours a day and spend the rest of the time outside usually
11:21 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:21 PM Reubs: i make a lot less money than you, fine by me though
11:21 PM Wildeyed: anyways like i said, sorry for timing u out
11:21 PM Wildeyed: bah
11:21 PM Wildeyed: the money isn’t really that important
11:22 PM Wildeyed: it’s true that i’m a millionaire but it’s false that it matters, which i certainly implied
11:22 PM Reubs: i dropped out a year ago for poker
11:22 PM Wildeyed: it just means that if i want to i can lock my door and turn off my phone and probably nobody will bug me
11:22 PM Reubs: was making 10k a month
11:22 PM Reubs: thinking this is awesome
11:22 PM Reubs: then i realized i needed like 1.5k a month to do everything i wanted to do
11:23 PM Wildeyed: dude
11:23 PM Wildeyed: that’s a really key realization
11:23 PM Wildeyed: i didn’t realize it until i was
11:23 PM Wildeyed: um
11:23 PM Wildeyed: jeez
11:23 PM Wildeyed: 32
11:23 PM Reubs: glad i got it out of the way early
11:23 PM Wildeyed: anyways, it was good to met you, sorry i was lame
11:23 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:23 PM Wildeyed: for sure
11:24 PM Reubs: what’s your name
?
11:24 PM Wildeyed: good to meet you man, take care
11:24 PM Wildeyed: mike long
11:24 PM Reubs: lol
11:24 PM Reubs: k
11:24 PM Reubs: do you remember
11:24 PM Reubs: whatever t2 had owl
11:24 PM Wildeyed: sure
11:24 PM Reubs: you were playing RG aggro
11:24 PM Wildeyed: we had a fun owl deck
11:24 PM Wildeyed: yeah
11:24 PM Reubs: JoINrbs
11:24 PM Wildeyed: i had a great rg deck
11:24 PM Reubs: is opponent name
11:24 PM Wildeyed: what happened? did you beat me?
11:24 PM Reubs: pitches autochthon wurm to nourishing shoal
11:24 PM Wildeyed: owl could beat anybody
11:24 PM Reubs: twincasts twice
11:25 PM Reubs: you disconnect game one and don’t come back
11:25 PM Wildeyed: oh yeah
11:25 PM Wildeyed: really?
11:25 PM Wildeyed: that’s weird
11:25 PM Reubs: yeah
11:25 PM Wildeyed: that’s not like me
11:25 PM Reubs: one of my favorite moments from magic
11:25 PM Reubs: ever
11:25 PM Wildeyed: it must have been an internet proble
11:25 PM Wildeyed: problem
11:25 PM Wildeyed: or a girl
11:25 PM Wildeyed: or…
11:25 PM Wildeyed: i dunno
11:25 PM Wildeyed: something else
11:25 PM Wildeyed: or maybe i just lost it lol
11:25 PM Wildeyed: that is funny though from your perspective
11:25 PM Reubs: i will always believe you were like ‘ did that guy just do’
11:25 PM Reubs: and disc’d
11:26 PM Wildeyed: hahaha
11:26 PM Wildeyed: sure, enjoy the thought
11:26 PM Wildeyed: honestly
11:26 PM Wildeyed: it’s entirely possible
11:26 PM Wildeyed: it’s just not like me
11:26 PM Wildeyed: that rg deck was really good
11:26 PM Wildeyed: won a lot
11:26 PM Reubs: owl was okay, i got a bit pet decky with it
11:26 PM Reubs: wurm + shoal gave you over 50% in some aggro matchups
11:26 PM Reubs: and control was always a walk
11:26 PM Reubs: so yeah, that was fun
11:26 PM Wildeyed: i once won 5 straight 8-mans with it right after the PT
11:27 PM Wildeyed: anyways, that’s a cool story
11:27 PM Wildeyed: that’s what i love about magic
11:27 PM Wildeyed: almost everyone is connected by like 1-2 degrees
11:28 PM Reubs: i will come make fun of you for cheating or something if i ever see you at a gp or pt
11:28 PM Wildeyed: ok i’m gonna dash
11:28 PM Wildeyed: sure do that
11:28 PM Reubs: gluck
11:28 PM Wildeyed: lol
11:28 PM Wildeyed: that would be awesome
11:29 PM Wildeyed: u2
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