Heart to Heart Chat with Mike Long

Posted on Monday, June 8th, 2009 by JoINrbs
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Sunday evening, JoINrbs was playing on Skeletor’s (Reuben’s) MODO account when his opponent became curt. A verbal battle ensued, which slowly morphed into a heartfelt discussion about love, life, success, and the measure of a man.

Then, it turned out his opponent was none other than Mike Long, former professional Magic player with no shortage of wacky money-making schemes.

Enjoy!

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10:47 PM Wildeyed: can you play a bit faster please?


10:48 PM Reubs: can you conceed please?


10:48 PM Wildeyed: why are you acting lame


10:49 PM Wildeyed: are you a 14 year old?


10:49 PM Wildeyed: well?[


10:49 PM Wildeyed: what’s your deal?


10:49 PM Wildeyed: what did i do?


10:49 PM Wildeyed: i politely asked you to play faster


10:49 PM Wildeyed: is this the way you act in person?


10:49 PM Reubs: play faster please


10:49 PM Wildeyed: why don’t you respond to what i said?


10:49 PM Wildeyed: are you proud of the way you’re acting?


10:50 PM Wildeyed: are you not going to answer?


10:50 PM Wildeyed: do you have any class at all?


10:50 PM Wildeyed: hello?


10:51 PM Wildeyed: answer me or have fun waiting 14 minutes


10:51 PM Reubs: fyi


10:51 PM Wildeyed: actually forgetabout it


10:51 PM Reubs: well, first i am fine with waiting


10:51 PM Reubs: go for it, your clock


10:51 PM Wildeyed: just enjoy wayiting


10:51 PM Wildeyed: great


10:51 PM Reubs: when i have a decision


10:51 PM Wildeyed: enjoy


10:52 PM Reubs: and have 1.5 minutes less than you on my clock


10:52 PM Reubs: it’s sort of rude to ask me to play faster


10:56 PM Wildeyed: ps i built that deck, so like um, smart networking too


10:57 PM Reubs: cool


10:57 PM Reubs: i built it too


10:57 PM Reubs: smart networking


10:57 PM Wildeyed: uh huh


10:57 PM Wildeyed: sure you did


10:58 PM Wildeyed: pat? didn’t think so


10:58 PM Reubs: not networking with you seems +ev


10:59 PM Wildeyed: smart thinnking – because i haven’t um helped several people win pro championships or anything


10:59 PM Wildeyed: oh no wait, i have


10:59 PM Wildeyed: it’s really great when the new generation brings a real sense of courtesy and fun to the game, thanks for that


11:00 PM Reubs: i’ve been playing a long time


11:00 PM Reubs: i switched to poker


11:00 PM Reubs: i make a lot of money


11:00 PM Reubs: you have reminded me why i stopped magic


11:00 PM Wildeyed: i bet you aren’t happy


11:00 PM Reubs: thank you


11:00 PM Wildeyed: ;)


11:00 PM Reubs: right


11:00 PM Reubs: that’s why i play poker


11:00 PM Wildeyed: have are things with girls


11:00 PM Reubs: and you don’t


11:00 PM Wildeyed: ;)


11:00 PM Wildeyed: um hum


11:00 PM Reubs: girls are pretty good


11:00 PM Wildeyed: you have no idea who you’re talking to dip-sh*t


11:00 PM Reubs: big date with stephanie in a couple of days


11:00 PM Wildeyed: i’m a millionaire, i could give a sh*t


11:00 PM Reubs: lol


11:00 PM Wildeyed: big date?


11:00 PM Wildeyed: lol


11:00 PM Wildeyed: nice


11:00 PM Reubs: you are a millionaire


11:01 PM Wildeyed: have fun


11:01 PM Reubs: and you are timing out on me


11:01 PM Reubs: in a two ticket HU queue


11:01 PM Reubs: you are awesome dude


11:01 PM Wildeyed: funny how the human system works


11:01 PM Reubs: thanks for the games


11:01 PM Reubs: g1 was close


11:01 PM Wildeyed: you treat me with contempt – click, whir, i do the same


11:01 PM Reubs: not sure about my play in g2


11:01 PM Reubs: holding anathemancer, fallout, bit blast, leech, finks right now


11:01 PM Reubs: had a lot to think about


11:02 PM Wildeyed: you should look at the way you treat people before you see steph – or you’ll be scratching your head as to why she left you


11:02 PM Reubs: gave you credit for not attacking and pumping leech if i telegraphed pyroclasm though


11:02 PM Reubs: ggs


11:02 PM Reubs: enjoy your thrilling mtg career


11:03 PM Wildeyed: yeah that’s where i derive all of my pleasure – no i have a great life. usually i come to the magic world to help pople


11:03 PM Wildeyed: people


11:03 PM Wildeyed: but sometimes


11:03 PM Reubs: that’s awesome dude


11:03 PM Wildeyed: if you work at it a bit


11:03 PM Wildeyed: while i’m mana screwed


11:03 PM Wildeyed: you can bring the animal back out ;)


11:04 PM Reubs: well you get mana screwed some % of the time


11:04 PM Wildeyed: ggs gl with poker, i apologize for timing out


11:04 PM Reubs: what point is there getting upset


11:04 PM Wildeyed: also


11:04 PM Wildeyed: read blink by malcolm gladwell if you want to know why i got upset


11:04 PM Reubs: read it already


11:04 PM Wildeyed: the respect study


11:04 PM Wildeyed: uw


11:04 PM Reubs: also i went to uw


11:04 PM Wildeyed: they have all the couples have phoney fights


11:05 PM Wildeyed: eventually they can tell by watching a 5-minute clip whether they will be together in 15 years


11:05 PM Wildeyed: 95% of the time


11:05 PM Wildeyed: with the sound turned off


11:05 PM Reubs: they aren’t phony fights


11:05 PM Wildeyed: they are


11:05 PM Reubs: they are everyday discussions


11:05 PM Reubs: no, you listen for contempt


11:05 PM Wildeyed: look how argumentative you are


11:05 PM Reubs: you are trying to tell me something that is incorrect, so i am correcting you


11:05 PM Wildeyed: ha, you put it a poor way


11:06 PM Wildeyed: that’s the point


11:06 PM Wildeyed: you think you can interact with people


11:06 PM Wildeyed: and treat them that way]


11:06 PM Wildeyed: fine


11:06 PM Wildeyed: but


11:06 PM Wildeyed: you’ll some people off


11:06 PM Wildeyed: even good people


11:06 PM Wildeyed: let that be a lesson


11:06 PM Wildeyed: i’ve away a lot of opportunities


11:06 PM Reubs: thank you for opening my eyes to the world


11:06 PM Wildeyed: i’ve had big ceos eating out of my hands


11:06 PM Wildeyed: then whoosh


11:06 PM Wildeyed: nothing


(those poor hungry ceos ;___; – GGA)


11:07 PM Wildeyed: i used to be that way


11:07 PM Wildeyed: i’m just saying


11:07 PM Wildeyed: you want to act like you know everything – great


11:07 PM Reubs: well let me develop through my grouchy early 20s


11:07 PM Wildeyed: i’ve got my lesson and my reward for my own bad behavior


11:07 PM Wildeyed: you’re probably way to bright to be grouchy


11:07 PM Reubs: then i will calm down and get chained down and learn to be nice to people


11:07 PM Wildeyed: you read bink


11:07 PM Wildeyed: you can correct me


11:08 PM Wildeyed: but do you understand the point ?


11:08 PM Reubs: yeah, it’s something i’m aware of


11:08 PM Wildeyed: you can dig yourself in such a hole the way you’re going


11:08 PM Wildeyed: make people hate you


11:08 PM Wildeyed: they will hurt you


11:08 PM Reubs: i don’t really care to make time for other people i’m not close to


11:08 PM Wildeyed: they won’t see you as a person


11:08 PM Reubs: i have a lot of excellent close friends


11:08 PM Wildeyed: they’ll steal from you


11:08 PM Wildeyed: sure


11:08 PM Wildeyed: so did i


11:08 PM Reubs: and all the connections i need right now


11:08 PM Wildeyed: and so many of them stabbed me in the back when i made it


11:08 PM Wildeyed: you have?


11:08 PM Wildeyed: what?


11:08 PM Wildeyed: do you think i’m lobbying you?


11:09 PM Wildeyed: bah


11:09 PM Wildeyed: you’re right


11:09 PM Wildeyed: you know it all


11:09 PM Reubs: i do not have aspirations of being president or a millionaire or anything


11:09 PM Wildeyed: and you know everyone you need to know


11:09 PM Reubs: i make plenty of good money


11:09 PM Wildeyed: and they will never screw you


11:09 PM Reubs: at the moment i am focusing on slacklining a lot


11:09 PM Wildeyed: good luck wiht that system kiddo


11:09 PM Reubs: and rock climbing


11:09 PM Reubs: and poker


11:09 PM Reubs: it’s working pretty well


11:09 PM Wildeyed: great


11:09 PM Wildeyed: well


11:09 PM Wildeyed: good luck with taht


11:10 PM Reubs: you should not pm people who are marginally behind you on time to ask them to play faster


11:10 PM Reubs: it is irritating


11:10 PM Reubs: and comes off as very rude


11:10 PM Wildeyed: you were taking forever


11:10 PM Reubs: and you should not time out on people, that’s just absurd


11:10 PM Reubs: i play poker with two cards


11:10 PM Reubs: magic has 60 cards in each deck


11:10 PM Reubs: and 7 cards in each hand


11:10 PM Reubs: and an infinitely more complex board state


11:10 PM Reubs: and i don’t know every card in your deck


11:11 PM Reubs: there is a huge huge amount to think about


11:11 PM Reubs: to maximize ev


11:11 PM Wildeyed: anyways


11:11 PM Wildeyed: i’m not defending my actions


11:11 PM Wildeyed: i don’t agree with my actions


11:11 PM Wildeyed: that’s why i apologized


11:11 PM Reubs: cool, i’m sorry i was short with you then


11:11 PM Reubs: i have no way of knowing you aren’t a random mtgo


11:11 PM Reubs: d1ckhead


11:11 PM Wildeyed: i mean


11:11 PM Wildeyed: if you treat people


11:12 PM Wildeyed: as if


11:12 PM Wildeyed: there are


11:12 PM Wildeyed: random dickheads


11:12 PM Wildeyed: i mean


11:12 PM Reubs: that is what you did to me right?


11:12 PM Wildeyed: you’ll bring out the dickheads even in cool people


11:12 PM Wildeyed: no what i did was gay


11:12 PM Wildeyed: i don’t like feeling bad around magic


11:12 PM Wildeyed: that’s why i’m sticking around to resolve this


11:12 PM Wildeyed: i don’t like feeling bad surrounding anything


11:13 PM Reubs: magic constantly makes me feel bad


11:13 PM Reubs: i played at gp: seattle


11:13 PM Reubs: worst feeling of my life


11:13 PM Wildeyed: i used to be such an animal


11:13 PM Wildeyed: at live tournaments i’d lose my mind


11:13 PM Wildeyed: regularly


11:13 PM Reubs: poker is so much better


11:13 PM Reubs: i 24-table


11:13 PM Wildeyed: that’s how i got a reputation, not cheating, just being a


11:13 PM Reubs: play with the same guys every day and they are all nice and well-mannered


11:13 PM Wildeyed: 24-table?


11:13 PM Wildeyed: ah yeah


11:13 PM Wildeyed: sure


11:13 PM Reubs: general understanding that you’re there to take money off bad players


11:13 PM Wildeyed: poker should be better


11:14 PM Reubs: and that you should be nice to the bad players so they keep coming back


11:14 PM Reubs: it’s gentlemanly


11:14 PM Reubs: magic is like


11:14 PM Reubs: lots of people with emotional issues trying to be superior to each other


11:14 PM Reubs: over a card game


11:14 PM Wildeyed: yeah


11:14 PM Wildeyed: i was typing that


11:14 PM Wildeyed: it makes you feel morally superior


11:14 PM Wildeyed: because you feel so freaking smart when you win


11:15 PM Wildeyed: but it’s so often a lie what you’re feeling


11:15 PM Reubs: i generally feel like an idiot when i win


11:15 PM Reubs: because i didn’t play perfectly


11:15 PM Reubs: that’s all magic has going for it in my eyes, infinitely complex


11:15 PM Wildeyed: yeah


11:15 PM Wildeyed: my friend david is a 2 time pt runner up


11:15 PM Wildeyed: still can’t play


11:15 PM Wildeyed: his mind is so jacked from the competitive days


11:15 PM Reubs: david who?


11:15 PM Wildeyed: he gets so angry when he loses]


11:15 PM Wildeyed: mills


11:16 PM Wildeyed: he’s still a brilliant deck builder


11:16 PM Wildeyed: but he can hardly play without suffering


11:16 PM Reubs: poker completely removes tilt from games of magic


11:16 PM Reubs: like, you realize how absurdly high variance is


11:16 PM Wildeyed: heh


11:16 PM Reubs: and how little in the game is actually up to you


11:17 PM Reubs: i just feel awful because i am spending hours playing magic instead of making tons of money playing poker or exercising and being social and stuff


11:17 PM Wildeyed: my friend david williams suffers over mtg all the time lol


11:17 PM Wildeyed: well


11:17 PM Reubs: he also does foot pornos and buys diamond studded toothpicks


11:17 PM Wildeyed: you’re falling pray to the fallacy of the inverse


11:17 PM Wildeyed: do you know what that is?


11:17 PM Reubs: i do not


11:18 PM Wildeyed: if it rains the sidewalk gets wet


11:18 PM Wildeyed: if p then q


11:18 PM Wildeyed: our minds are really screwed up when it comes to that idea


11:18 PM Wildeyed: we always think q = p


11:18 PM Wildeyed: there’s zillions of studies about it


11:18 PM Wildeyed: so


11:18 PM Wildeyed: if it’s good to make a million dollars playing poker


11:18 PM Wildeyed: then…


11:18 PM Wildeyed: we feel like it’s bad not to


11:19 PM Reubs: yeah


11:19 PM Wildeyed: thus chasing opportunity in this manic state


11:19 PM Reubs: i don’t know


11:19 PM Reubs: i am not like, phil galfond obsessive over this


11:19 PM Wildeyed: it’s very powerful to have no negative expectations


11:19 PM Wildeyed: i don’t know phil


11:19 PM Reubs: he’s a high stakes cash guy who doesn’t really enjoy life despite making millions


11:19 PM Wildeyed: exactly


11:20 PM Reubs: he’s basically the perfect example


11:20 PM Wildeyed: i know so many miserable millionaires


11:20 PM Wildeyed: soooo manuy


11:20 PM Wildeyed: many


11:20 PM Reubs: i like having an idea of what my time is worth


11:20 PM Wildeyed: i was miserable


11:20 PM Reubs: i’m still able to take time off poker no problem


11:20 PM Wildeyed: i remember the day


11:20 PM Reubs: but i value my time more


11:20 PM Wildeyed: a half mil cleared into my account


11:20 PM Reubs: and make sure i’m doing stuff that i like in my time off


11:20 PM Wildeyed: and i was like: i am not a happy person


11:20 PM Wildeyed: yeah


11:20 PM Wildeyed: i work around 4 really hard hours a day


11:21 PM Wildeyed: which takes usually 8 hours


11:21 PM Wildeyed: then that’s it


11:21 PM Wildeyed: dnd


11:21 PM Wildeyed: magic


11:21 PM Wildeyed: girls


11:21 PM Wildeyed: around


11:21 PM Wildeyed: f*cking around


11:21 PM Wildeyed: that 8 hours is my contribution to the world


11:21 PM Reubs: i do 1-3 hours a day and spend the rest of the time outside usually


11:21 PM Wildeyed: yeah


11:21 PM Reubs: i make a lot less money than you, fine by me though


11:21 PM Wildeyed: anyways like i said, sorry for timing u out


11:21 PM Wildeyed: bah


11:21 PM Wildeyed: the money isn’t really that important


11:22 PM Wildeyed: it’s true that i’m a millionaire but it’s false that it matters, which i certainly implied


11:22 PM Reubs: i dropped out a year ago for poker


11:22 PM Wildeyed: it just means that if i want to i can lock my door and turn off my phone and probably nobody will bug me


11:22 PM Reubs: was making 10k a month


11:22 PM Reubs: thinking this is awesome


11:22 PM Reubs: then i realized i needed like 1.5k a month to do everything i wanted to do


11:23 PM Wildeyed: dude


11:23 PM Wildeyed: that’s a really key realization


11:23 PM Wildeyed: i didn’t realize it until i was


11:23 PM Wildeyed: um


11:23 PM Wildeyed: jeez


11:23 PM Wildeyed: 32


11:23 PM Reubs: glad i got it out of the way early


11:23 PM Wildeyed: anyways, it was good to met you, sorry i was lame


11:23 PM Wildeyed: yeah


11:23 PM Wildeyed: for sure


11:24 PM Reubs: what’s your name
?

11:24 PM Wildeyed: good to meet you man, take care


11:24 PM Wildeyed: mike long


11:24 PM Reubs: lol


11:24 PM Reubs: k


11:24 PM Reubs: do you remember


11:24 PM Reubs: whatever t2 had owl


11:24 PM Wildeyed: sure


11:24 PM Reubs: you were playing RG aggro


11:24 PM Wildeyed: we had a fun owl deck


11:24 PM Wildeyed: yeah


11:24 PM Reubs: JoINrbs


11:24 PM Wildeyed: i had a great rg deck


11:24 PM Reubs: is opponent name


11:24 PM Wildeyed: what happened? did you beat me?


11:24 PM Reubs: pitches autochthon wurm to nourishing shoal


11:24 PM Wildeyed: owl could beat anybody


11:24 PM Reubs: twincasts twice


11:25 PM Reubs: you disconnect game one and don’t come back


11:25 PM Wildeyed: oh yeah


11:25 PM Wildeyed: really?


11:25 PM Wildeyed: that’s weird


11:25 PM Reubs: yeah


11:25 PM Wildeyed: that’s not like me


11:25 PM Reubs: one of my favorite moments from magic


11:25 PM Reubs: ever


11:25 PM Wildeyed: it must have been an internet proble


11:25 PM Wildeyed: problem


11:25 PM Wildeyed: or a girl


11:25 PM Wildeyed: or…


11:25 PM Wildeyed: i dunno


11:25 PM Wildeyed: something else


11:25 PM Wildeyed: or maybe i just lost it lol


11:25 PM Wildeyed: that is funny though from your perspective


11:25 PM Reubs: i will always believe you were like ‘ did that guy just do’


11:25 PM Reubs: and disc’d


11:26 PM Wildeyed: hahaha


11:26 PM Wildeyed: sure, enjoy the thought


11:26 PM Wildeyed: honestly


11:26 PM Wildeyed: it’s entirely possible


11:26 PM Wildeyed: it’s just not like me


11:26 PM Wildeyed: that rg deck was really good


11:26 PM Wildeyed: won a lot


11:26 PM Reubs: owl was okay, i got a bit pet decky with it


11:26 PM Reubs: wurm + shoal gave you over 50% in some aggro matchups


11:26 PM Reubs: and control was always a walk


11:26 PM Reubs: so yeah, that was fun


11:26 PM Wildeyed: i once won 5 straight 8-mans with it right after the PT


11:27 PM Wildeyed: anyways, that’s a cool story


11:27 PM Wildeyed: that’s what i love about magic


11:27 PM Wildeyed: almost everyone is connected by like 1-2 degrees


11:28 PM Reubs: i will come make fun of you for cheating or something if i ever see you at a gp or pt


11:28 PM Wildeyed: ok i’m gonna dash


11:28 PM Wildeyed: sure do that


11:28 PM Reubs: gluck


11:28 PM Wildeyed: lol


11:28 PM Wildeyed: that would be awesome


11:29 PM Wildeyed: u2


Wildeyed has left the conversation.